One of my favorite walking shoes is the similar pair that are only in suede, and are heavier. I prefer leather, and thought that these would be similar in terms of support and comfort. I didn;t expect them to look particularly nice because the others don;t but at least are ok under trousers. However these have NO LATERAL SUPPORT at the back sides. They flop out and are not that comfortable. They were surprisingly cheap in price but i thought that was the sale, but no, they are made much more cheaply. Not going to be my favorite walking shoes at all. .